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Comment and opinion for retail investors in the UK

Cost of investing

DIY Investing – does it pay off?

15th December 2025 by Mark Potter Leave a Comment

Readers will have maybe noted that a great deal of the money being invested by retail investors is going into ETFs and most of those, although now a decreasing proportion, will be passive index trackers. In addition, plenty of money goes into mutual funds that are passive, and even model portfolios where the asset allocation may be varied a bit from time to time, but the underlying strategy is largely far from active and trackers are used to get market exposures.

Are we doing well?

The founder of Vanguard, which firm is now one of the largest owners of lsited investments in the world, made his name arguing that paying for portfolio management was a waste of time because the vast majority of managers in the USA failed to beat the S&P 500 index consistently. Now, we all know that is not a very complete rationale (why would the S&P 500 be your sole benchmark?, for instance) but if the index makes enough money over the long term to meet your investment objectives and it can be tracked very cheaply, why not do that? Clearly, a great many people have agreed that was the way to go!

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Filed Under: Cost of investing, Members Only, Monthly commentary, Passives and Trackers, Portfolios

Wot, no IFA?!

18th August 2020 by Mark Potter Leave a Comment

Research published by Aegon reveals that 53% of wealthier (not exactly defined) individuals are confident managing their own finances.

The most common reason stated for not employing an adviser was cost (33%) then lack of trust (24%). 21% said they no longer needed financial planning advice.

Although NotHarry, of choice, has far too few subscribers to carry out a similar survey and get meaningful results, the discussions I have had with people over the last couple of years have included all of the above reasons for discontinuing an IFA relationship.

Not Harry

The function of this web site is to give those who have advisers some insights that allow them to keep an eye on the value for money they are getting, or not as the case may be. Beyond that, the material available offers insights from a long time investment professional that are intended to be helpful to those who are running their own portfolios.

In fairness to advisers, the same survey reported that of those wealthy individuals who had an adviser (17% of the survey group), 94% were happy with the service they received.

I would always a maintain that good investment and financial planning advice from an experienced and well qualified professional is worth paying good money for. The problem I have noted is that the really good value advisers all have full client books.

The remaining vast majority who do a rather inadequate job of filtering people into centralised investment propositions that have no obvious merits in return for excessive fees have also become rich on the back of consumer naivety. That is partly because we have had more or less rising (bull) stock markets since 2008. All that will change before too long.

Filed Under: Cost of investing, Rants, Uncategorised

At last – some price cuts from fund managers

18th June 2019 by Mark Potter Leave a Comment

M&G, one of the biggest names in retail fund management (having pretty much invented unit trusts) has announced a more transparent charging approach that is both cheaper and more logical.

The larger funds they run will be subject to discounted charges. The bigger the fund, the better the discount. That is how all fund managers should operate. Many milk their flagship funds for millions in fees while running far too many “me too’ small specialist offerings that the market does not need and which would just not be viable without the subsidies from their cash cow siblings.

Fund manager charges are the most persistent cost for the retail investor. I don’t mind at all if the fees are reasonable when results justify them, but it has always seemed unfair that as funds become gigantic, the operator and even the fund manger in person acquire a growing cash flow of millions without offering the supporting investors any extra benefit.

I hope this is the start of a trend.

Filed Under: Cost of investing

Nothing for something

29th May 2019 by Mark Potter Leave a Comment

I have commented in the past that financial advisers and wealth managers are currently in love with what are called multi asset solutions. I have deep suspicions about many of these offerings which sound to me like a re-invention of the bad old life assurance bonds that were often used by advisers to package up asset management processes in such a way that they could ‘milk’ large fees from the clients’ funds.

When one ‘rip off’ gets outlawed, they think of another one…

Reading a trade publication produced by Incisive Media which is focused on the multi asset fund management story I extracted a number of comments from experienced objective writers and from the fund managers offering these solutions that did nothing to disperse my concerns.

An ‘old hand’ like myself retraced the history of advisers offering ‘managed funds’ back to the aforesaid life assurance bonds with their 5% initial commissions and up to 1% a year trail fee (paid for doing nothing most of the time). He clearly had the same sceptical view as me – we have both been around the block, as they say.

A fund manager stated that as consumers would be expected to pay 2% per annum as the cost of owning an investment and 1% would go to the IFA, and 0.25% to the dealing platform, that left 0.75% for his firm to actually look after the money, which he thought was fine. He did not comment on the obvious disparity of the adviser charging 1% for doing nothing other than funnel money in his direction.

Another analyst confirmed that the multi asset offerings that access investment markets using ETFs (Exchange Traded Funds – see Glossary) and passive investments, on average made more money than products that invested in a range of the supplier’s in house funds and the latter in turn make more money on average than offerings that invest in a wider market and have ‘double’ fees as a result. So fees impact on performance. But the differences in fees between these variants was much smaller than the level of advisers’ fees!

I have believed for a very long time that an investment process that involves a client filling in a simplistic questionnaire to deliver a numeric score and then be given a ‘managed’ or multi asset portfolio that is maintained by an institution to meet an investment objective that is claimed to be consistent with that score based on quantitive modelling is for a start intellectually dubious.

But what is worse, is that having gone through that process, most advisers will do nothing but ‘pipeline’ the reporting of the portfolio from the institutional fund manager on to the client and do absolutely nothing else unless asked to by the client. Oh joy, have we got back to 1% trail commission and paying advisers to play golf and sail their yachts!

I am not by the way saying that appropriate multi assets solutions will not suit some requirements – there are good ones at decent prices that can be part of a portfolio or in rare cases, would be sensible for an entire portfolio. I am just saying that investors need to know who is doing the ‘heavy lifting’ in looking after their money and who is laughing all the way to the bank.

Filed Under: Cost of investing, Rants

Padding out profits (rant warning)

12th March 2019 by Mark Potter 2 Comments

I read today the comments for shareholders from the Quilter asset management business (pun in the title intended).

A summary of one section would be that profits have gone up even though inflows fell and assets under management slipped a little due to the decline in market values. Margins have increased and selling off a single asset business (ie a service that offered different funds for different markets segments) will have helped, they say.

Fund managers love to maximise returns – for themselves!

In another post I have commented recently that the ‘push’ of multi-asset propositions to retail investors is all about increasing profits for fund managers and advisers. It will be argued that the end client gets a better offering, but the evidence of that is thin on the ground. After all, ‘better’ has to be compared with something and I don’t ever see such comparisons!

This is more evidence of the underlying reasons as to why investors are being told that they now need an adviser (IFA) to tell them to invest with another adviser (asset manager) who will pick yet other advisers (fund managers) to buy them investments. That is 3 levels of fees for one result!

Sounds like the football team with a Director of Sport, a manager and a coach! But quite likely no decent strikers.

Filed Under: Cost of investing, Rants

Overpaying for investment services?

15th October 2018 by Mark Potter Leave a Comment

My attention was drawn by a reader to a piece on the Consumer Reports (www.consumerreports.org) website that fully backs up the comments I make in my “How to” articles about selecting an adviser and ensuring you actually get what you are paying for.

What is interesting about this is that it is from the USA.  The basic message is exactly the same – the public don’t get proper disclosure of fees and services even though there is legislation in place that is supposed to make that happen.

One caveat, if you do read the US piece:  organisations like Vanguard are cheap and crusaders for good value but they do rather over ‘package’ their investment offerings and you need to be sure of what you are getting.  At times they are, in my view, adding risks that are not so well disclosed as their fees

Filed Under: Cost of investing

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